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Rupert Loydell talks about Smartarse and I try to sell books whilst covered in dog vomit
I had a splendid week this week. A fantastic bookshop, specialising in poetry, invited me to supply them with Oyster Catcher (www.oystercatcherpress.com) and Knives Forks and Spoons books. So, Claire, the dog and I went and had ourselves a pleasant day in Lancaster. The shop is in the Litfest offices, and you can check it out here: www.litfest.org/the-poetry-bookcase.
It’s a fantastic place, with a coffee bar and artisan beers. There was also some lovely looking tiramisu on offer. The bookshop itself was the best I’ve seen outside of Chicago. So, well worth checking out.
Unfortunately, the dog gets car sick, so I turned up covered in dog vomit with two boxes of books. Sarah Hymas, who works there, knew me by reputation, so probably thought it was my own, drunken sick. It wasn’t though.
Another nice thing that happened, was S. J. Fowler sent me links to videos of him launching Red Museum at the Blue Bus. I couldn’t make it down, unfortunately, but I watched it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjl8zRJAxWc & here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eWFJjUH3QU. The second reading is from the Curzon Cinema in Soho. They’ve got a fantastic bar too, which does some brilliant German beer. You can sit outside too, which is nice in the summer.
Last week I also published Smartarse, which is an anthology edited by, and featuring, Rupert Loydell.
Loydell used to run Stride Publications, which, about a decade ago, was my first port of call once Maggie O’Sullivan had opened my eyes to Alternative Poetry at the most amazing gig I had ever attended. I read as many Stride books as I could get from the library, or borrow from Scott Thurston, and I paid well over the odds for a couple of Stride Research Documents, which were out of print. If it hadn’t been for Stride I certainly wouldn’t be publishing the sort of poetry I do today. I’d probably be putting out overlooked Victorian poets, or something.
Strangely, I never felt compelled to read any of Rupert’s poetry. However, I put that right recently, and I have assimilated Without (which was written with Peter Gillies) and Gauge into my personal literary canon. So, in my mind, they are as good as Paradise Lost.
Smartarse is a declaration of a new poetic aesthetic, which I think makes it very exciting. This is what Rupert says about this new wave of verse:
The poetry I want at the moment is smartarse: a whirlwind mix of comedy, fiction, collage, free association, confession, bravado, parataxis and storytelling. It uses or may use experimental or linguistically innovative techniques, be rooted in modernism or postmodernism, but maybe not so that you as a reader would notice.
Here are fifteen such authors. There’s no school or movement and most of the authors don’t know each other and wouldn’t want to. It’s my idea to call this poetry Smartarse, too, so don’t blame them.
It seems to me this poetry is rooted in the freedom of young USA writers, who haven’t been involved in the sad poetry wars we’ve seen in Britain. USA writers such as Dean Young and Josh Bell (who were invited to contribute to this anthology), along with many others, have taken techniques, processes, ideas and poetics from anywhere they choose, without anyone arguing whose poetry it is or whether it’s experimental or not. They’ve revisited the lyric, the confessional, post-Poundian and post-Eliot as well as the Black Mountain schools. They’ve looked to Ginsberg as much as Frost, Blackburn and Berryman, the New York school, the second New York school, the Narapo Inistitute, the West Coast, the mid West, to zen and the South.
Of course, the grass is always greener, and my American friends assure me it’s not so rosy over there as it might appear from this side of the fence, but it does seem it’s taken us poets a long time in Britain to recover from arguments about who has control of the duplicator or photocopier, who is a better poet than who, who we should or shouldn’t be reading. Do we care or shall we get on with working with language, with writing and reading, with ‘the real work’?
I hope you will enjoy this robust, readable, self-aware and smartarse poetry.
And now for the interview:
Rupert, what is a Smartarse?
One online dictionary says 'someone who mouths off to provoke or be funny' which seems close enough. I think there's usually an element of self-deprecation and self-knowing involved, too.
When I was trying to get my head around this new poetic movement you described it as 'Postmodern narrative poetry'. I came to terms with this by conceiving it as a coherent group taking the 'low-cultural' productions of Victorian Manchester performance poets, and reinterpreting them as 'high-cultural' productions. Is this the case? How would you describe it?
Come on, I'm not inventing or naming a movement, I'm trying to compile an anthology of poems that I want to read and enjoy, that seem to fulfil my current [and possibly temporary] poetic concerns and interests. I'm calling it 'post-confessional narrative poetry' now. I think ideas of confession and storytelling are coming back but through a filter of experiment and process/form-based poetry, but again in a knowing and sometimes distanced way. I'm not trying to find the new Sylvia Plath or any other bleeding heart.
People are suggesting that I'm sexist, because I've published a book without any women in it. Was this intentional?
What, did I intend to be sexist? No. I had a couple of women authors on my original list of possible contributors. One declined, the other hasn't written any poems for a couple of years.
I ran my concept past several poet, lecturer and publishing friends who all suggested various authors, of both sexes. In the end the authors in Smartarse are the ones who got selected because of their poetry. I suspect there aren't any children, ethnic minorities, pensioners, Cornish, Native American Indians, Australians or several other distinct groups in the anthology either but - surprise, surprise - no-one is questioning that.
I don't think I really need to be defensive, but I have a long track record of publishing women poets through Stride, in anthologies of women's poetry and in solo collections. In this case it's a male anthology by default, but that isn't the focus of the anthology, it's a by-product. People can read it on their own terms and see what's going on, but reading by statistics and percentages makes no sense at all.
Thanks Rupert. I’d like to conclude with two poems from the book:
David Briggs
The Devil
likes to appear unannounced when I’m writing.
Mostly, he lounges in my elbow-chair,
legs crooked a-swing on the walnut armrest,
juggling a pantoufle on his hoof;
attempting to banjax my metier
with volleys of nefarious imagery:
the President of Curval’s buttocks
electively whipped to pinkish leather;
Gargantua towelling his fundament
with the neck of a well-downed goose;
the Hanged Man’s ghost-trousered salute;
the Flag of the Mad Mother;
Job smitten with boils the size of cricket balls;
Marsyas flayed to one continuous wound;
Vlad III grinning at his breakfast sanguinello.
All of which, by virtue of this arguably
protracted list, I manage to keep
from contaminating the rest of my oeuvre.
Then he helps himself to my Laphroig,
paces the kelim stroking his whiskers,
proposing argumentae a priori
against the New Formalism,
which is enough to make me cap my pen,
and hurl some Miltonian Kryptonite,
vis. the absurdity of his rebellion
having been merely a futile swipe
at the well-spring of his own being;
and, therefore, guaranteed
(in the impossible event of a win)
of securing nothing but his own annihilation.
He shrugs, offended; sulks in the bathroom.
I hear him mangling, then cursing, the flush.
So, I return to my impossible poem
of the soul’s exchange rate—havering
between a glass of water in the desert
and a desert to keep back the flood.
Nathan Thompson
Harlequin Certainties
a graphic poem for Peter Warlock
where is my shadow
down the street a portrait in an attic
further black railings remind me of white teeth
through revolving doors laughing
open sesame to absinthe hollowed closed
a waiter found dead in the basement
framed for a suicide he did not commit newsreel
he sets out on a new adventure
blood drip-fed through a backdrop of acid
tonight is new music
cats on stalks their eyes dowsing for pedestrians
moving east now I would have had I been later
following the sun junk painted
on grainy photographs meetings
frostbound illicit sex in brittle grass
how to move is becoming easier
no heartbeat a melisma
screwing over a ground grave open
‘good evening Mr H you
remind me of something I would rather forget’
a fox beats time in a bin outside the window
glass stained red door bolted from the inside
how did you escape
back-tracking kidneys ticking in a paper bag
heels’ sprung rhythm
lifting off cape spun tight over a railway bridge
‘I should have been in Edinburgh but Liverpool Chelsea’
thank you for dreaming Moscow is grateful
symbols and spaces prevent my attendance
bottled out lined up in a row
shadowlike and frail a dim silence
all I am I cannot hear
‘artist guilty of bodysnatching’
almost able to speak I believe you
there was once another of me
knocked dead tried me somewhat larger
than human size the effect of solemn approaches
but I am here now and do not remember
how you brushed my hair stroked my beard
slicked me up for presentation
a mirrored cloak
closing in on twelve-hour exposure
harlequin certainties my friend and co-conspirator
with a tear running down your cheek
scar a mask of combat you could never
‘do you live here’ ‘no’
‘do you work here’ ‘no’
I check for scorpions and centipedes under the bed
dances of the blind anticipating yesterday
I will tell you a story:
“a fool is a man whose angel has gone missing
transforming the world’s matter objects of contemplation
clutter essentials of the heart through this family
I have picked glass beads from Tudor rings
authentic blues and reds transformed into
murky exhibitions that become more acute
yearning for the unseen
‘what we contemplate we become’
a world sometimes called (sometimes answered) civilization
getting too big to be written about the air felt lighter
loneliness and despair a form of cognition
I am not sure that the intense ego is funny
so I’ve left myself outside
drinking milk with the cat the city is nearly dark enough
to carry on a few days a few metres after
I’ve built my strength flying further
villainous in a graphic novel archetypal postures
shivering with the tide dawn is almost here”
did you like it follow the narrative
a body lifting from a body in a dark room
to view the exhibition ‘his colleagues tried to get rid of him’
I have remained faithful to your vision
writing my memoirs in your blood
to avoid fundamental questions
so over Thames no need for a wherry
visions of a witch in a pantomime
could animate these journeys spat at moonlight
revolt and ululation I wonder sometimes
how much I wrote how much he without
me I think not much persistent small-scale
invocations conjurations songs
in the vapour-trail of a broomstick
duping the gullible doting senile never
a widespread belief in such phenomena
with sad looks company to find
to shake off this act confirm the spell King Lud
another position of obscurity narrative
I am not able but am always
murdered again was it you
line up the suspects hats on pegs please
come clean or risk the underworld’s impotence
prayer’s unceasing effort in both mathematics and science
widespread scepticism emphasises nature deemed guilty
a wasps’ nest that burst on the northern line
in the sad house of endless pain and woe
so home simply because
the women are reduced to begging for their survival
underground pennies wept from your eyes
it seems clear enough narrative stops
scattergun prophylactic false beard
I will not go back radiating outwards
orgasms in each fingertip moving east
where stops and starts happened upon you
just here in this coffee shop under the needle
renaissance man resurrection Newgate
Tower Hill a singing head
flowing under the river listen again
we face each other through a black mirror
it used to belong your open secret
heart wound a split second dances mattachins
Friday, 10 June 2011